The Bellwether
The Bellwether is a podcast where students of the Max Bell School of Public Policy at McGill University talk to current MPP students, leading practitioners, and experts on emerging policy issues in Canada and abroad. The podcast is a part of The Bell, a weekly newsletter where Master of Public Policy students unpack complex policy topics through op-eds, interviews, and briefings.
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Jul 24, 2026
Jul 24, 2026
31 min
Every series needs a closer, and we saved a heavy hitter for ours. Earlier this year, the landmark Bill 21 case reached the Supreme Court of Canada, a challenge that turns on the scope of the notwithstanding clause. As we await the Court’s judgement, the final episode of Normalizing the Override, our series on Section 33 of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, steps back to explore Québec’s history with federalism and its relationship to the Charter’s most controversial section.
Host Carter Wynne is joined by Daniel Béland, Director of the McGill Institute for the Study of Canada at McGill University. Béland is also a James McGill Professor in the Department of Political Science at McGill University. As a leading scholar of public policy and political sociology, his research spans social policy, federalism, institutionalism, and Canadian politics. He has published more than 25 books and over 220 peer-reviewed articles, and his work has been cited more than 18,000 times. He holds a PhD in Political Sociology from the École des Hautes Études en Sciences Sociales in Paris and held a Tier 1 Research Chair at the University of Saskatchewan before joining McGill University in 2019.
Associated with The Bell, The Bellwether is a podcast hosted and produced by students of the Max Bell School of Public Policy at McGill University.
Host: Carter Wynne
Producer: Carter Wynne
Editor-in-Chief: Kimberley Moriarity
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May 28, 2026
May 28, 2026
32 min
In the latest episode of The Bellwether, host Hermon Afowork is joined by Jesse McCormick.
McCormick is a proud citizen of Canada, the Anishinabek Nation and the Oneida Nation (Wolf Clan). He serves as Senior Counsel at Pape Salter Teillet LLP, a leading First Nations-focused law firm, and as a Senior Advisor at Mokwateh, an Indigenous-led consulting firm specializing in reconciliation, governance, and partnerships. During his time in public service, he helped to support First Nations participation in major project development and contributed to the establishment of Indigenous Protected and Conserved Areas, the reform of Canada’s environmental assessment processes and the passage of federal legislation to implement the Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples.
Tune in for an insightful conversation on the intersection of policy and reconciliation. McCormick and Afowork discuss the future of major projects in Canada, their relationship to Indigenous rights and reconciliation principles, and how that future is shaped by the evolving political and regulatory dynamics at play.
Affiliated with The Bell, The Bellwether is a podcast hosted and produced by students of the Max Bell School of Public Policy at McGill University.
Host: Hermon Afowork
Editors: Hermon Afowork and Kimberley Moriarity
Editor-in-Chief: Kimberley Moriarity
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Mar 13, 2026
Mar 13, 2026
17 min
We’re back with another episode of The Bellwether! This is Part 2 of our series taking a closer look at Section 33 of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, better known as the “notwithstanding clause”.
Host Carter Wynne is joined by Cheryl Oates, a public affairs advisor and communications specialist currently serving as Chief of Staff to British Columbia Premier David Eby. Cheryl began her career in journalism before moving into political communications, previously serving as Communications Chief for the former Alberta Premier Rachel Notley.
In this episode, Cheryl guides us through the recent use of the notwithstanding clause in Alberta, exploring its political context and the implications of these decisions for public trust, democratic accountability, and the future of Charter politics in Canada.
Associated with The Bell, The Bellwether is a podcast hosted and produced by students of the Max Bell School of Public Policy at McGill University.
Host: Carter Wynne
Producer: Carter Wynne, Hermon Afowork
Editor-in-Chief: Kimberley Moriarity
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Feb 19, 2026
Feb 19, 2026
30 min
We’re back with another episode from The Bellwether! This is Part 1 of a new series taking a closer look at Section 33 of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, better known as the “notwithstanding clause.”
Host Carter Wynne is joined by Pearl Eliadis, an award-winning lawyer, educator, and author. Pearl is an Associate Professor (Professional) at the Max Bell School of Public Policy and a member of McGill’s Centre for Human Rights and Legal Pluralism. She is also the author of Speaking Out on Human Rights, a leading text on Canada's human rights system.
In this episode, Pearl guides us through the normalization of the notwithstanding clause, focusing on its preemptive use in Quebec's Bill 21 and the resulting implications for the protection of minority rights and our democratic institutions.
Associated with The Bell, The Bellwether is a podcast hosted and produced by students of the Max Bell School of Public Policy at McGill University.
Host: Carter Wynne
Producer: Carter Wynne
Editor-in-Chief: Kimberley Moriarity
Music from #Uppbeat (free for Creators!):
https://uppbeat.io/t/danger-lion-x/dusk-memory-aesthetic
License code: INUUSNRDBATMHVX5

Jan 22, 2026
Jan 22, 2026
37 min
Evidence-based policymaking is often talked about, but less often unpacked. In our first episode of the year, hosts Ayeyi Ohene-Adu and Calvin Campbell examine how evidence is used or ignored in policy decisions and why this matters for effective and accountable governance. They are joined by Dr. Nick King to help navigate these complexities and what they mean for the future of policy.
Associated with The Bell, The Bellwether is a podcast hosted and produced by students of the Max Bell School of Public Policy at McGill University.
Hosts: Ayeyi Ohene-Adu and Calvin Campbell
Producer: Calvin Campbell, Ayeyi Ohene-Adu, Carter Wynne
Editor-in-Chief: Kimberley Moriarity

Apr 25, 2025
Apr 25, 2025
39 min
In this uncut election special Isabella and Gabe discuss the finer points of political campaigning in Canada with Cheryl Oates. Cheryl draws on her extensive experience working campaigns with the NDP to give an insider's perspective on Canada's political parties during an election period.
Hosts: Gabe Blanc and Isabella Coronado Doria
Producers: Gabe Blanc, Isabella Coronado Doria and Kiran Gill
Managing Editor of the Bellwether: Kiran Gill
Editor-in-Chief of the Bell: Gabe Blanc

Feb 7, 2025
Feb 7, 2025
49 min
The Bellwether is back with another longform interview! In this episode, Jacob Kates Rose sits down with Maria Popova Associate Professor of Political Science at McGill University and author of the new book Russia and Ukraine: Entangled Histories, Diverging States. Jacob and Professor Popova have a comprehensive discussion about the state of the war in Ukraine, Western involvement in the conflict and what could come next.
Host: Jacob Kates Rose
Producer: Jacob Kates Rose
Audio Engineering: Jacob Kates Rose
Managing Editor of the Bellwether: Kiran Gill
Music Credits: Jacob Tarasofsky (Instagram: Tarasonic)

Oct 1, 2024
Oct 1, 2024
41 min
The Bellwether is back with an exciting guest! Cameron Adams, from Gimli Manitoba, has been involved with indigenous language revitalization in his community through the creation of an app (Swampy Cree), language camps and academic research. In this episode he speaks with Seth and Isabella about his experiences with indigenous language, language advocacy, policy and reconciliation more broadly.
Hosts: Isabella Coronado Doria and Seth Bumagat
Producers: Seth Bumagat and Isabella Coronado Doria
Audio Engineering: Jacob Kates Rose
Managing Editor: Kiran Gill
Editor in Chief of the Bell: Gabriel Blanc
Music Credits: Jacob Tarasofsky (Instagram: Tarasonic)

Sep 28, 2024
Sep 28, 2024
14 min
In this first episode of the new season, we begin with the first edition of a new segment for The Bellwether called Article Spotlight. Kiran Gill, the author of the recent article from The Bell titled, “Anti-Scab Legislation is an Important Win for Organized Labour,” joins hosts Seth Bumagat and Cyrus Nagra. They discuss Kiran’s article, covering topics including the recently passed Bill C-58, 1990s labour history in the Northwest Territories, and class politics.
Seth Bumagat, Cyrus Nagra, and Kiran Gill are all Master of Public Policy Students at McGill University’s Max Bell School of Public Policy. The Bellwether podcast is associated with The Bell, a student-run newsletter from students at the Max Bell School of Public Policy.
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Read Kiran’s Article: https://maxpolicy.substack.com/p/anti-scab-legislation-is-an-important
Hosts: Seth Bumagat & Cyrus Nagra
Sound Engineer: Seth Bumagat
Production: Seth Bumagat, Kiran Gill, Cyrus Nagra, Husein Pumaya Yakubu
Managing Editor: Kiran Gill
Editor-in-Chief of the Bell: Gabriel Blanc
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Sep 20, 2024
Sep 20, 2024
42 sec
The Bellwether Podcast is back! Here is a brief introduction from the new team. Stay tuned for new upcoming episodes!
Host(s): Isabella Coronado, Seth Bumagat
Managing Editor: Kiran Gill
Editor-in-Chief of The Bell: Gabriel Blanc
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